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Re: Use TALKFREMONT not INSIDEBAYAREA.COM
Reply #30 - Jan 14th, 2010, 7:25pm
 
BB231 -


http://www.ibabuzz.com/tricitybeat/2010/01/11/what-theyre-saying-about-the-as...


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WOW !

Andy knows how to post graphics TCB.  
Bruce comes to defend TCB "regulars"  - - - -  again !!!
Second time for bruce running interference for M. Artz !!!!!!!
Andy and Marty do NOTHING except stir pot with no end in site. . .   GOOGLE ADS revenue on the rise !!!!!!! Grin
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Reply #31 - Jan 15th, 2010, 11:02am
 
Here's another little curio to consider - --

A response is offered here about why Lowes and others would have objected to the original stadium idea at Pac Com - See the reply from bbpx231 following the question from JN in this thread  -

http://community.fremontcitizensnetwork.org/forum/topics/city-council-meeting...


Curiously, Marty over at the TCB BLOG tries to engage this thread - - but does so in the TCB web site - -- see his post #8 - -

http://www.ibabuzz.com/tricitybeat/2010/01/13/naz-cinema-is-closed/#comment-9534



Fascinating that the aliases of Andy, Marty, Swamp Squid and others are SO SO SO active at stirring the TCB pot - but are nowhere to be found anywhere else . . .  unlike those who are Fremont residents interested in discussing issues.

For me this is just more anecdotal evidence that the dissention in TCB (masquerading as "dialogue") exists solely to benefit "eyeballs"  "click thru's" and Google Ad words revenue generated therein . . . .

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Reply #32 - Jan 31st, 2010, 9:02am
 
T H I S   was  potentially an amazingly revealing exchange.

Marc Purdy of SJ Merc reports that "..Fremont politicians did not even contact NUMMI officials before making their big announcement. "

Artz of Argus feels a need to counter that "Fremont did talk to NUMMI about the land."

But - Artz doesn't even refute the claim of Purdy - he simply  says that NUMMI   WAS    contacted  - he never states WHEN that contact occurred.  So - now the question is  "Why is it important for Artz to state this fact which is largely irrelevant to the original claim ?"  Is he hopeful that Fremont residents will read HIS assertion and conclude "no foul" based on his (irrelevant) statement ?


But what is even more interesting is the fervant responses (along with the usual dose of anecdotal rationalizations) of others - which continues to beg the question, "Why is this issue SOO important ?"

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks  ...."

Mr. Noodle in post 16 makes another failed attempt to explain what transpired, infering that "Based on that time line, he  (Diaz) would have had to speak to NUMMI before the 8th of January." but never states clearly what the basis for his conclusion is.  Seemingly, like Artz - Mr Noodle is profering a conclusion aimed at clearing up the question but with no facts - maybe hoping readers wont pay attention ?????  Who knows ?

But it gets even more revealing as the dialogue progresses, in this same post (#16)  Mr. Noodle raises the prospect of cash compensation to Artz - - -    WHAT WAS  T H A T  ? ? ? ? ??    WHY ?   WHO THINKS LIKE THIS ?

And Marty in post 20 raises the prospect of anger and rage in a simple discussion.  Once again  WHY does s/he even consider such a prospect.  This is a *discussion* folks - with simple questions and answers - but consider the very peculiar responses of those involved.

The thought processes of some of those defending the City and its actions are revealing indeed !

http://www.ibabuzz.com/tricitybeat/2010/01/29/as-to-san-jose-column/#comment-...

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Reply #33 - Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:51pm
 
Artz finally gets around to reporting that there is a change in FCN management after spending his morning re-reporting the weekend PD activity log.

And at the same time he expresses  concerns about the relative transparency of the FCN announcement which, he reports, is 3 weeks after the official move. A fair question - and a good one.

See here -

http://www.ibabuzz.com/tricitybeat/2010/03/02/kathy-mcdonald-expected-to-run-...


Which raises yet another question  - -  

Why is it that Matt Artz is capable of challenging transparency in a public interest group like FCN, but is "too busy" to ask  tough questions of City Hall ?


Unfortunately for those who have been quick to offer excuses for Matt's seeming inability to probe more deeply into Fremont politics, it does appear that Bob W's personal "Charlie McCarthy" may indeed  possess the ability to think on his feet and ask pertinant questions.

Now, if only we could  somehow get that same enthusiasm pointed in the direction of the public interest . . . .
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Reply #34 - Mar 3rd, 2010, 11:18am
 
If the purpose of the Argus sock puppets was to discuss differences of opinion. . . . . if the concerns about the health of the city were your primary motivator, you'd be relatively ambivalent about where to take your discussion.

That the pro-TCB, pro-City Haul, pro-Fremont A's trolls are (seemingly) stuck in the TCB blog and that they are so obviously fanning the flames of dissention with no intent of dialogue hints at another motive OTHER than topics at hand.  But what can it be ?

Traffic, eyeballs and click-thru's certainly is the most obvious of possible benefits.  

Martz posts the topic;  Marty spews forth random insults and occassional threats peppered with occassional sound thinking (aimed at establishing momentary credibility); random other Ourgas sock puppets pepper the conversations  - - - and with the same result . . . an ensuing diatribe that goes nowhere.   Martz smiles all the way to the Google ad revenue bank.

You'll never take the fight elsewhere because at the end of the day, its the click-thru's and traffic on YOUR web site that is of interest.

That's the only rational explanation I can conceive . .. . .

There are a couple of other possibilities but, these other thoughts center  around questionable intellect and maturity.

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Reply #35 - Mar 6th, 2010, 10:01am
 
The Argus sockpuppets are called out in my post of Mar 3 and perhaps coincidentally,  a round of newbies seem to have emerged.

The political agenda of these new aliases, their patterns of irrational reasoning and personalized afront combine with an avoidance of sincere dialogue and continues previously established patterns aimed solely at driving traffic to the site AND discrediting those who express concerns for effectiveness of current political status quo and their friendly journalist.  

http://www.ibabuzz.com/tricitybeat/2010/03/02/mcdonald-expects-to-run-for-cit...








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Reply #36 - Jul 3rd, 2010, 10:50pm
 
Looks like BANG sock puppets have migrated from the Politics board to TCB board.  Too bad mod isnt up to the calling to redirect the discussion to a relevant venue.  I thought this was the "Tri City Beat" .



http://www.ibabuzz.com/tricitybeat/2010/06/29/pete-stark-jousts-with-the-minu...



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Reply #37 - Aug 2nd, 2010, 8:08pm
 
something to remember next time when trying to discuss in TCB Blog -


http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/3/19/

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