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Information on Red Light Cameras
Mar 9th, 2010, 2:49pm
 
TCB is starting a discussion on red light cameras and promises to get some conclusions "..by June.." -  see here -

http://www.ibabuzz.com/tricitybeat/2010/03/09/red-light-cameras/#comments

Sounds like a pretty deep topic and a thorough review will be done.

While you hold your breath waiting for Artz to tell us what a good thing these systems are for our city - -- you can begin to inform yourselves now.


http://www.highwayrobbery.net/TickRedCamArmeysfinalreport.pdf

For those with little time on their hands - the key take-away of this particular report is as follows -

"The subject of signal timing can be difficult and obscure. And for that reason, the proponents of red light cameras have been able to escape close scrutiny.

Transportation officials and engineers know that the yellow signal timing is essential to safety. The data showing this to be the case are found in their studies. Nonetheless, some have systematically and intentionally ignored the inescapable engineering fact that longer yellows would solve the so-called crisis caused by shortened yellows.

Red light cameras present a perverse disincentive for local jurisdictions to fix intersections with excessive red light entries. It’s hard to fix a “problem” that brings in millions in revenue.

In other words, red light cameras aren’t fixing a safety problem, they’re creating one."
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Reply #1 - Mar 9th, 2010, 3:03pm
 
Others states and municipalities are questioning the effectiveness of red light cameras.  See articles from the Christian Science Monitor here -

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2010/0224/Illinois-considers-bill-bannin...

Key take-away of this article  if you dont have time to read all of it follows  - P.s. - NOTICE THE SKEPTICISM ABOUT DATA AUTHORED BY THOSE WHO BENEFIT FROM THE USE OF THESE SYSTEMS - - - - ONCE AGAIN,  I N D E P E N D A N T   data is what is needed. . . .

So we’ve made intersections less safe and not more safe. [The cameras] are not about safety, but really about revenue,” he says.

Data fluctuates depending on which side you support. The Insurance Institute For Highway Safety says cameras reduced red-light-running violations by 40 percent in communities such as Fairfax, Va., and Oxnard, Calif.

However, data like that represent “a built-in conflict of interest,” says Barnet Fagel, Illinois safety advocate and traffic researcher for the National Motorists Association. That’s because the cameras benefit the insurance industry, allowing them to raise rates in states where violations accrue.

Mr. Fagel supports independent research, such as a recent Chicago Tribune series, that showed that collisions were either increasing or holding steady at 60 percent of the 47 city intersections equipped with the cameras in 2006 and 2007."
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Reply #2 - Mar 21st, 2010, 6:10am
 
Somewhere around 60%-70% of Fremont red light camera citations result in paid fines, I understand.  Others are dismissed or granted community service.  So, the 12,000 citations being issued per year via red light cameras suck about $3 million a year (or more) out of our local economy.  This money could be going to merchants for any number of goods and services.  Instead it is given over and split up among various government entities.  I have seen many studies which conclude seemingly opposite results.  Cameras reduce accidents; cameras increase accidents...or many shades of gray in between.  I have not seen anyone address the socio-economic impact per se which the tons of tickets and fines are having on our lives.
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Reply #3 - Apr 3rd, 2010, 10:34am
 
Seems like other news media have pretty well hammered out the issues of red light cameras - - long ago - - meanwhile, Argus readers continue to wait for . . . something.

LA Times article from May 2008 pretty well sums up the issues -

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/may/19/local/me-redlight19

There are four pages to this article - so, use the links at the bottom  of the article to continue.


Watchdog makes an interesting point about the socio-economic impact. . . . along those lines here's another question  -    What is the economic impact of every vehicle making a completely legal right turn stop before proceeding ?  

Vehicular throughput on a given intersection slows from ___  (what ?)   to   _______ (What ?)   ??

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Reply #4 - Apr 3rd, 2010, 3:29pm
 
http://www.highwayrobbery.net/TrcDocsFremontTicketCounts2001-2009recd2010Feb2...

Above is a link to spreadsheet of Fremont's camera citations. Among some other curiosities, look at the HUGE spike in first column: Auto Mall w/bound at Fremont Blvd. In late FEB 2005 citations increased 10-fold.  WHY?  In late 2000, the dedicated right turn lane was changed to require a stop on red before turning right.  Traffic Engineering Dept. says no changes were made in intersection after that time.  Yet, miraculously, in 2005, all of a sudden the camera started really flashing.
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Reply #5 - Apr 23rd, 2010, 7:22am
 
Artz is making progress towards his June article on Red Light cameras. . . . . for all the time it istaking, one would conclude that this is going to be one of Artz' crowning achievements, wouldn't you think ?

http://www.ibabuzz.com/tricitybeat/2010/04/22/more-on-red-light-cameras/#comm...

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Reply #6 - Apr 24th, 2010, 5:55am
 
One mystery solved.  What happened in early 2005 at the intersection of Auto Mall and Fremont Blvd to cause the red light camera to flash over 25 times a day when for over 3 years it averaged flashing just once or twice a day?
Answer:  Redflex went out to the intersection and upgraded the still camera to a video camera.  A video camera can photo enforce right turns; a still camera cannot.  Those folks who live in the residential development just north of Auto Mall must have been surprised.  I suspect most of the right turners were people coming home from work.
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Reply #7 - Apr 24th, 2010, 6:00am
 
Here is a link to a summary of all red light camera citations issued in Fremont from 2001 through 2009; intersection by intersection.

http://www.highwayrobbery.net/TrcDocsFremontTicketCounts2001-2009recd2010Feb2...

1.  Why are citations at Mowry and Farwell high but citations at Mowry and Blacow low??
2.  Why are citations at Decoto and Paseo Padre high but citations at Decoto and Fremont Blvd low?

These intersections are in close proximity to each other and seem to have similar characteristics - volume of traffic; same drivers, etc.

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Reply #8 - May 14th, 2010, 9:20am
 
A lot of interesting comparisons and possible conflicts between Fremont and San Bruno in this article.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_15073972?nclick_check=1

The intersection of 380 and El Camino is VERY heavy traffic and I struggle to imagine that anything in Fremont comes even close to the volume San Bruno sees and, yet, San Bruno feels that the location would not pay for itself . . . . go figure.

BUT - even more interestingly - San Bruno is openly willing to acknowledge that "...the number of collisions has been dropping for the past thee years without cameras. " -  -  presumably due to the fact that the number of vehicles on the road is diminishing in a recessive economy. . . . . either that, or the population of drivers is just getting much much better  . . . .

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Reply #9 - Jun 7th, 2010, 12:46pm
 
M. Artz' article appears here -

http://www.insidebayarea.com/argus/localnews/ci_15235033

It looks like Media News Group rallied considerable resource to cover this important topic and those of you who have a copy of the June 4 Fremont Bulletin (another MNG pub) can read Wes Bowers coverage of the same issue on Page 4.  

There were several interesting distinctions between Artz' and Bowers' coverage of this same matter but, those differences aside, I was fascinated to learn from Bowers' article that -  according to our Fremont traffic engineer - there is "no way" to add to yellow light durations in Fremont.
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Reply #10 - Jun 7th, 2010, 1:02pm
 
I can't find the Wes Bowers June 4 article on the NET.  Can you forward it to me?
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Reply #11 - Jun 7th, 2010, 1:29pm
 
I looked and looked . . . . couldnt find a link.

Here's the next best thing I can do -





From the June 4 2010 issue of "Fremont Bulletin" -

City enters contract for re-light camera replacement
Resident claims staff can get a beter deal elsewhere

By Wes Bowers

A resident Tuesday night requested Frmont City Council look for a better deal before entering into an agreement with a red-light camera contractor.

Roger Jones claimed cities across California were paying less for their red-light camera systems and getting better results.  He said Fremont should be looking for similar deals.

According to staff reports, Redflex Trafic Systems, Inc. proposes to provide the city with a full-system upgrade and replacement of all video and video-related equipment, estimated at a value of $300,000.

The city will have an option to install up to five additional intersection approaches to be selected by city staff during the proposed seven-year agreement.

Under the plan, the city would pay a fixed fee of $4800 a month for each of the existing 10 camera systems.  This would be a reduction from the current agreement of $8622 per month.

The monthly fee for any additional camera systems would be $5870 each, according to staff.

But Jones claimed the city could get better deals and urged the council not to approve a so-called "no-bid contract."  He added the City of Gardena in Southern California pays $3500 a month for its automated systems.  

"I  urge you not to vote on this," he said.  "If we can get a reduced rate the city could save a lot in its budget.  Please do not vote on a no-bid contract."

Staff told the council RTS is the only nationally-certified contractor, which is why it was considered a no-bid contract.  Staff added <that the>  City of Gardena is using a company that does not meet state standards.

City of Fremont signed a contract with Redflex Traffic Systems Inc, in 1999 to provide equipment and support services for an auomated red-light enforcement program.

The goal was to address a 31 percent increase in red-light related traffic collisions while taking advantage of developing technology to enforce violations.

The initial contract with RTS allowed the city to install up to 10 automated red-light cameras.  But during the first year of the contract, only three intersections were installed.  From 2000 to 2004, cameras at six additional intersections were put in place.

The city negotiated a subsequent five-year contract with RTS in 2005 to provide automated red-light enforcement with an option to add additional intersections.

There are 10 intersections in Fremont with automated red-light camera systems.  They include -

<What follows is the same list of intersections you'll find in the ARGUS article >


The automated enforcement camera systems captured more than 19,500 red-light violations last year, resulting in 10,516 citations.

The difference between the number of incidents captured and citations issued is due to what staff called "police rejects"  (emergency vhicles, funeral processions, obstructed licens plates, etc.) camera malfunctions and weather issues (sun glare).

By comparison, the total number of red-light violations viewed and issued by police department employees without the automated system was 319, according to staff.

Since implementing the program in 2000, the city has recorded a 40 percent decrease in traffic-signal-related collisions.

Jones also suggested increasing the yellow light time by at least a second to reduce the amount of redlight runners.  He added the City of Loma Linda increased its yellow light duration by a second and saw a 98 percent reduction in the number of red lights run by motorists.

Jones further claimed <that the>  City of San Diego also increased its yellow light duration - by about three seconds - and saw about a 50 percent reduction.

David Huynh, a City of Fremont traffic engineer, refuted Jones' assessments.

Huynh said San Diego and Loma Linda's yellow light durations were below state standards, so it was natural to see a decrease in red-light violations in those communities.

He added there was no way to add to the yellow light durations in Fremont.

"Our yellow light times are already one second higher than the state standards."  Huynh said.

The council did not disuss the item and unanimously approved the contract.



Apologies in advance to MNG and Wes Bowers for any transcription errors which would all be of my own creation.
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Reply #12 - Jul 7th, 2010, 8:45am
 
FHTA has provided data on the impact of red-light cameras.

“…red light cameras reduced right-angle crashes by 25 percent and increased rear-end crashes by 15 percent, according to the Federal Highway Administration.”

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/Congress-questions-red-light-cameras-...

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Reply #13 - Jul 7th, 2010, 8:49am
 
Recognize any of this ? -

"The report found that although cities claimed their sole interest was safety, officials failed to furnish reliable evidence to back up the assertion."


“Based on interviews and responses to survey questions, the reporting of accident statistics is not being used as a measure of the effectiveness of red light cameras,” the report stated. “The primary emphasis appears to be on the number of citations issued. Based on the data provided by the cities, there was no overall trend indicating a noticeable change in accident rates before and after installation of red light cameras.”


More here -

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/california-court-grand-jury-bash-san-mateo-r...

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Reply #14 - Jul 23rd, 2010, 4:47pm
 
Here's another Fremont resident that has figured out the red light camera gambit -

http://www.insidebayarea.com/opinion/ci_15568668


- -  and because we agree that the BANG archives are so mercurial - here is the text of the above -

My Word: Fremont should test increasing yellow-light durations
By Roger L. Jones
Guest Commentary
Posted: 07/22/2010 12:01:00 AM PDT



FREMONT POLICE say that when determining the placement of a red-light camera, the department looks at accident data, vehicular and pedestrian traffic volume, citizen and officer complaints, potential violations and overall construction of the roadway. A very careful process.

Yet in 2005, after the first five years of operation, two red-light cameras were shut down. Why? Not because they had done their job; these two cameras were located at two of the three intersections with the greatest number of injury accidents. But, the reason they were shut down was these two cameras were the lowest revenue producers, so the police say. It is more about the money than safety.

You would think that after 10 years and more than 90,000 tickets, that violations would be down — way down. Not so. Of the cameras where straight-through violations can be measured, these violations have increased 20 times and they went down 29 times; hardly compelling evidence that cameras are changing driver behaviors. The numbers of violations go up; they go down. Never consistently. Always about the same, on average.

What can we do to reduce red-light running? Simply extend the yellow-light intervals like what was done last year, statewide in Georgia and in Loma Linda. With astounding results, towns in Georgia reported an immediate 80 percent reduction in violations by adding one second of time to their yellow lights: Loma Linda — 92 percent by doing the same. Data from camera companies show 40-50 percent of straight-through violations occur in the first half-second of a red light and 80-90 percent occur within the first second.

Accident reductions are starting to be reported in Georgia since the yellow light extensions 15 months ago. The downside, however, is that revenue from fines is far short of what it costs in fees to operate these cameras.

Towns are either scrapping the cameras or renegotiating their fees with camera companies. Some are looking at new ways to increase camera citation revenue again.

Extending yellow-light times has been suggested to our City Council, as well as to the engineering and police departments. The most common reason for denial of a test is that Fremont's yellow-light times are in accordance with the state-mandated minimums. There is nothing in the state code, however, that says we cannot increase the yellow-light durations.

Some additional conjecture has been offered that any test of this engineering change might confuse motorists or expose the city to some liability. The claim is made that benefits will be short-lived; that motorists will once again try to beat the light and violations will rebound to previous levels. These opinions have been refuted in various studies. The benefits are lasting.

Fremont should conduct a test — add a half-second to one second of yellow to a photo-enforced approach. Results will be measurable after one month. Include another intersection.

There is much to gain and nothing to lose. I am speaking of the very same safety improvements touted by the camera companies: Reduction of red-light running.

Roger Jones has lived in Fremont for 30 years. Before his retirement in 2006, he was circulation manager at the San Jose Mercury News.

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